trilene knot vs palomar

0000002144 00000 n Check out this ultimate list of fish-friendly parks in Florida. But all the splice knot tests which I have read involve lighter braid to heavier leader which is the reverse of what we use. It seems that those are the most common knots tied by Southern California saltwater fishermen.

Hey Charles, thanks for making time to leave the nice comment.

0000000890 00000 n Have you ever tested if there are different breaking strengths/reliability when tying different types of snell knots? As always I am very appreciative of the info you provide. 80lb Power Pro to 50lb Momoi mono. I fish the Sea of Cortez for billfish. This Improved Double Palomar knot won all five tests… the original version broke in the 13 lb to 17 lb range in all 5 tests. The braid must be tight enough to distort the skin of the mono and so really dig in.

The tests have been done using 10 to 20 lb PowerPro braid tied to 20 to 30 lb Ande monofilament and Seaguar fluorocarbon. – Please Share this post with any of your fishing friends because it could save them from losing a trophy fish. Here’s a link to the best braid to braid knot that I’ve been able to find so far: https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/strongest-braid-to-braid-fishing-knot/. Omg i wish they would bring the show knot wars back lol, If these videos get a lot of engagement, we may just have to do our own knot wars here:). The Palomar won the original test I did for mono knots: https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/best-fishing-knot-leader-to-hook/.

Either way, the FG knot will definitely be stronger than it because the FG proved to be over 30% stronger than the Albright when I tested those two against one another. I have not yet tested the various snell knots. I would like to see tests done against this grouper knot.

Given how similar it is to a Uni, my assumption is that its strength would be similar to the Uni. To test these knots, I first tied each end of a piece of line with the two different knots to two swivels. I would love to see a knot test for such a setup using the IGFA testing machine which, I’m sure, would be more accurate than my home-made rig which incorporates a spring scale. Here, marlin bigger than 250# are rare; we generally catch more stripes and sails. Tying it: When trimming the tag end of the Trilene knot leave about an eighth of an inch for security.

Sorry, but I did not see the email. The knot can be considered a "100% knot" in that the line often breaks above its rated strength, not at the knot. But braid requires much for friction within the knot compared to monofilament so it almost always requires a different knot than the traditional knots used on mono.

And although there are some instances where the main line (or leader) will break before the knot fails, there is no single knot that can always do that with all types of lines. These knots have worked out great for me. The improved clich (triline knot)(double clinch) is stronger than your 3rd rated clinch knot.

Hey Tom, here’s how the final test did with the winner of the braid Palomar to the winner of the previous braid-to-leader knot contest (where the Modified Uni won)… I did the exact same test where I tied each one against the other on a single line 5 times, and then broke them all to see which one failed first. 1000 or 2500 reel and fishing mostly for trout up to 5 lbs and stripers maybe to 10 lbs? Just incase you wanna change, i’ll try not to notice any others if there is any. So only use a leader that is a thicker diameter then the braid correct? The GT seems to require a doubled line to be tied as shown here: https://youtu.be/AjcFEKJEhHw. It starts as an Albright but it finishes with a locking half hitch which allows it to be tied with only a few wraps. The palomar knot is great for mono, but it has consistently underperformed with braid simply because it doesn’t have as much surface area to spread the tension load. I’d like to see a section with tests on dropper knots whenever you have time. All other versions of it (without using a doubled line of the bimini) should not be trusted as being a super-strong knot.

What’s your favorite snug knot with braided line?

Sometimes in yellowtail fishing you need to have a leader smaller than the mainline that you’re fishing when the fish get weary. Other knots that use different methods on the leader end are Red Phillips, variations on Alberto knot and an FG.

You said that fg to Bimini consistently beat single line fg. But it’s worth testing directly to know for sure. Pull "firmly but slowly" on the main line and draw the loop down to about a quarter inch in size. I have tested a lot of FG knots and braid to swivel knots with 10 lb PowerPro, and it seems as if the FG knots are typically slightly stronger than the best braid knot I’ve found so far (Modified Braid Uni knot). Conclusion: The original Palomar is better since it won a majority of the contests while also being quicker to tie (one less step). FYI – I just did a test on the “GT Knot” from the most popular video showing how it’s tied, and it’s avg. Would be very interested to know how much strength loss there is with that.

I understand your reasoning about it being a different knot in that the coils are wrapping around an additional strand of line, but my initial guess after testing a bunch of knots is that it won’t make much of a difference vs. the uni knot because they are still very similar when you follow the tension load from the reel to the lure/hook… the point where the knot constricts the line forcing a shart turn right above the eye of the hook/lure will be the weak point either way. Do not tighten the tag end, just snug up enough to shape the knot. 0000002802 00000 n

However, the FG knot tied on a single line has proven to outperform the doubled knot connections in most of my testing. Fish always drag your line against anything they come near, which abrades the line and creates weak spots. Im using as SL mono 0.33, and its connected to main line 0.28. But then I watched this video where he tieing what he calls the “T Knot” for creating paternoster droppers; Could you please test the difference in these setups? For 9lb line, make 6 wraps, loop back and make a further 5 loops inside. There is a version of the improved clinch knot that is stronger than a palomar. How cool!

All Rights Reserved What say you? I love the palomar knot. I have tied a few knots (Davy, Double Davy, & Orvis knot) that are fairly similar, and they all worked well but just weren’t as strong as some of the more popular knots like the uni knot since they don’t spread the tension load evenly before the line makes its first hard turn coming from the rod. If anyone can master the FG, Freh loop, the uni ( and double-uni), the surgeons,The palomar and the improved hitch, I don’t think you need anything else for inshore fishing. And if you’d like a shortcut, this page shows the results from my testing below to help guide you to the best knots from my many tests done so far. How To Get A Hooked Fish Out Of Structure Without Breaking Off, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/best-fishing-knot-for-braided-line-swivel-hook-lure/, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/underwater-scents-that-attract-repel-fish/, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/strongest-braid-to-braid-fishing-knot/, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/gt-knot-vs-fg-knot/, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/fg-knot-vs-bimini-twist-knot-strength-test/, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/non-slip-loop-knot/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QufTialXjtw, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57JgC8S5dAc, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/gt-knot/, https://news.orvis.com/fly-fishing/videos-tie-jacks-knot, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/braid-uni-knot/, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-tie-a-fishing-leader-for-snook-redfish-seatrout/, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/strongest-palomar-knot/, https://www.saltstrong.com/kids-fishing/rigs/bottom/dropper-rig/, https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/clinch-knot/, Pro: This is an extremely strong knot when tied correctly, Con: Requires tools to tie and takes a long time (extremely tough to do while on the water).

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